Amateur Radio Wiki talk:Organisation - Revision history

TheAnarcat at 04:45, 15 May 2011

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	To restrict to a namespace (in this example, talk pages):		To restrict to a namespace (in this example, talk pages):

	mediawikigitdump.py http://amateur-radio-wiki.net/index.php -n 1		mediawikigitdump.py -n 1 http://amateur-radio-wiki.net/index.php

			You can also convert the Mediawiki markup to markdown, the default format in Ikiwiki (see below):

			mediawikigitdump.py -n 1 -t http://amateur-radio-wiki.net/index.php

			To fetch only the last changes since the last commit:

			mediawikigitdump.py -n 1 -t -i http://amateur-radio-wiki.net/index.php

	This also works on Wikipedia, and can be useful to get a local copy of all the ham pages, since we can fetch by category:		This also works on Wikipedia, and can be useful to get a local copy of all the ham pages, since we can fetch by category:

	mediawikigitdump.py http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php ~~-c Category:Amateur_radio~~		mediawikigitdump.py -c Category:Amateur_radio http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php

	Be careful with Wikipedia: you can't really mirror all of wikipedia with this, and there are [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Database_download\|better tools]] out there to do that anyways. In fact, it's [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Types_of_bots#Non-editing_bots\|recommended]] that datamining on Wikipedia occurs on a separate database that you can can [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Database_download\|download separately]].		Be careful with Wikipedia: you can't really mirror all of wikipedia with this, and there are [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Database_download\|better tools]] out there to do that anyways. In fact, it's [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Types_of_bots#Non-editing_bots\|recommended]] that datamining on Wikipedia occurs on a separate database that you can can [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Database_download\|download separately]].

TheAnarcat at 15:36, 18 October 2010

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	== Admin gone missing? ==		== <del>Admin gone missing?</del> ==

	The [[Project:About]] page originally said that "ams that have the interest and necessary skills to form and be part of a foundation are invited to		The [[Project:About]] page originally said that "ams that have the interest and necessary skills to form and be part of a foundation are invited to
	contact the owner at admin1@amateur-radio-wiki.net so that sensible discussion can take place." I have tried to contact Tim Roberts and haven't got a response yet. Furthermore, he seems to be inactive in the wiki for at least a year. I am therefore worried about the maintenance of this wiki. I am therefore publicly offering my help to maintain and support this install, but I would need more accesses to do that. I have made a backup of the wiki content and cleanup (see below) to make sure the existing work doesn't die. -- [[User:TheAnarcat\|TheAnarcat]] 12:35, 17 October 2010 (CDT)		contact the owner at admin1@amateur-radio-wiki.net so that sensible discussion can take place." I have tried to contact Tim Roberts and haven't got a response yet. Furthermore, he seems to be inactive in the wiki for at least a year. I am therefore worried about the maintenance of this wiki. I am therefore publicly offering my help to maintain and support this install, but I would need more accesses to do that. I have made a backup of the wiki content and cleanup (see below) to make sure the existing work doesn't die. -- [[User:TheAnarcat\|TheAnarcat]] 12:35, 17 October 2010 (CDT)

			:Admin is there, I got a ping from him, thanks tim! -- [[User:TheAnarcat\|TheAnarcat]] 10:36, 18 October 2010 (CDT)

	== Backup script ==		== Backup script ==

TheAnarcat at 18:04, 17 October 2010

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	mediawikigitdump.py http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php -c Category:Amateur_radio		mediawikigitdump.py http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php -c Category:Amateur_radio

	Be careful with Wikipedia: you can't really mirror all of wikipedia with this, and there are better tools out there to do that anyways.		Be careful with Wikipedia: you can't really mirror all of wikipedia with this, and there are [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Database_download\|better tools]] out there to do that anyways. In fact, it's [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Types_of_bots#Non-editing_bots\|recommended]] that datamining on Wikipedia occurs on a separate database that you can can [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Database_download\|download separately]].

	I am making regular copies of this wiki while we look for tim. -- [[User:TheAnarcat\|TheAnarcat]] 12:47, 17 October 2010 (CDT)		I am making regular copies of this wiki while we look for tim. -- [[User:TheAnarcat\|TheAnarcat]] 12:47, 17 October 2010 (CDT)

TheAnarcat: add ikiwiki and backup script stuff

2010-10-17T17:47:41Z

add ikiwiki and backup script stuff

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	== Backup script ==		== Backup script ==

	I have worked on a Mediawiki backup script. It talks to the [[Special::Allpages]] and [[Special:Export]] pages to export the most recent version of every page of this wiki as a flat file. It then commits that to a git repository.		I have worked on a Mediawiki backup script. It talks to the [[Special:Allpages]] and [[Special:Export]] pages to export the most recent version of every page of this wiki as a flat file. It then commits that to a git repository, which aims to be usable as a [http://ikiwiki.info/ ikiwiki] backend. The code is currently in [http://anarcat.ath.cx/software/mediawikigitdump.git/ a git repository], use this command to get a local copy:

			git clone http://anarcat.ath.cx/software/mediawikigitdump.git/

			You can do a backup with this:

			mediawikigitdump.py http://amateur-radio-wiki.net/index.php

			To restrict to a namespace (in this example, talk pages):

			mediawikigitdump.py http://amateur-radio-wiki.net/index.php -n 1

			This also works on Wikipedia, and can be useful to get a local copy of all the ham pages, since we can fetch by category:

			mediawikigitdump.py http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php -c Category:Amateur_radio

			Be careful with Wikipedia: you can't really mirror all of wikipedia with this, and there are better tools out there to do that anyways.

			I am making regular copies of this wiki while we look for tim. -- [[User:TheAnarcat\|TheAnarcat]] 12:47, 17 October 2010 (CDT)

			== Ikiwiki? ==

			Since we're on that topic, I'd like to introduce another wiki engine called Ikiwiki. The above scripts makes some efforts to make the resulting backup usable as a Ikiwiki backend, and while that work isn't complete, it would now be trivial to convert this wiki for an almost completely operational ikiwiki site.

			Ikiwiki is interesting for hams as it will work even if the central server (or the internet) is down: being based on git, you can download a copy of the full history of the wiki locally, make changes using a regular editor (and therefore offline) and then push that back to the central wiki once network is available again. This seems to me like a killer feature for hams in emergency operations that want a quick reference (and of course that have power to operate a computer, otherwise books still work! :).

			The drawback of ikiwiki is that the user interface of ikiwiki is not very intuitive, or let's say very minimal compared to the polished Mediawiki interface. I particularly like the talk pages, categories and templating system (or transclusion) in MW. In ikiwiki, there's a good tagging system to replace categories, but talk pages are not as nice and I'm not sure there's transclusion. We also need to see if redirections are supported.

			I am therefore not advocating that we change wiki engines just yet: too much work, too much confusion, and it could push away our precious little number of contributors. But it's something I'll keep in mind. See also [http://ikiwiki.info/tips/convert_mediawiki_to_ikiwiki/ this page] for more information on how to convert to ikiwiki. -- [[User:TheAnarcat\|TheAnarcat]] 12:47, 17 October 2010 (CDT)

TheAnarcat: i tried to contact tim, no luck. i made a backup script

2010-10-17T17:35:05Z

i tried to contact tim, no luck. i made a backup script

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== Admin gone missing? ==

The [[Project:About]] page originally said that "ams that have the interest and necessary skills to form and be part of a foundation are invited to
contact the owner at admin1@amateur-radio-wiki.net so that sensible discussion can take place." I have tried to contact Tim Roberts and haven't got a response yet. Furthermore, he seems to be inactive in the wiki for at least a year. I am therefore worried about the maintenance of this wiki. I am therefore publicly offering my help to maintain and support this install, but I would need more accesses to do that. I have made a backup of the wiki content and cleanup (see below) to make sure the existing work doesn't die. -- [[User:TheAnarcat|TheAnarcat]] 12:35, 17 October 2010 (CDT)

== Backup script ==

I have worked on a Mediawiki backup script. It talks to the [[Special::Allpages]] and [[Special:Export]] pages to export the most recent version of every page of this wiki as a flat file. It then commits that to a git repository.